I'm assuming the CFML Slack is still on the free tier? I was notified today on a different Slack (also free) about the coming changes to Slack's limits on message and file retention that kicks in in September (https://slack.com/help/articles/7050776459923-Pricing-changes-for-the-Pro-plan-and-updates-to-the-Free-plan). As of today, it looks like we have access to messages from early April, so the change from 10K messages to a 90-day window doesn't seem terribly significant for this Slack? (It's much more significant for my other low-traffic Slack which goes back a couple years.)
10/06/2022, 2:45 PM
My Slack app is showing “Free trial ends today” which I am assuming means we will shortly lose access to anything older than 90 days here based on their recent licensing changes?
@seancorfield@ryanguill ☝️ Anyone see my message from last week?
11/23/2022, 7:51 PM
I had not, because I wasn't in this channel. The Admins did have a discussion about this but the path forward was inconclusive, as I recall... Let me refresh my memory on that.
11/23/2022, 8:03 PM
OK, we discussed this back in August (when Heroku first made the announcement). That's right at the edge of the 90-day retention/search limit so part of the discussion is no longer accessible but the options are:
• someone (or some company) pays for Heroku for the inviter to stay up
• someone (or some company) buys a cfml-slack related domain and sets it up as a redirect to an invite link -- and keeps updating it with new invite links as each one expires
The latter is what we do for the Clojurians Slack. I can't remember who actually pays for the domain but the Admins all have a shared Gmail account and that is used for the shared account on namecheap which hosts clojurians.net which is just a redirect to an invite link that several of us update regularly.
The TL;DR is that Slack just makes this all painfully difficult for open source communities to run/manage -- because it is deliberately not designed for non-business users.
11/23/2022, 8:03 PM
FWIW, Ortus had a similar discussion about our boxteam slack. It's possible to run the same Heroku app as a docker container and we may just move it over to our Docker swarm. The only real downside is the URL will change
11/23/2022, 8:05 PM
(I will also say that the Admin team as a whole is not very active these days because most of us have moved on to other communities to a greater or lesser extent -- Adam Cameron and I are the most active Admins here, which should tell you a lot 🙂 although Pete Freitag, John Whish, and Mingo Hagen have contributed to discussions over the last several months)
11/23/2022, 8:06 PM
I would really like to see some deeply-involved company take over the inviter/domain stuff and manage it, so that the cost and hassle doesn't fall on a bunch of volunteers who aren't really part of the community these days.
11/23/2022, 8:08 PM
I don't know where the cfml-slack.herokuapp.com URL is advertised but I suspect changing the URL to something less Heroku-y would be just fine overall.