I don't know where the cfml-slack.herokuapp.com URL is advertised but I suspect changing the URL to something less Heroku-y would be just fine overall.

Was there ever any conclusion on this? I was pointing someone to join the slack and that heroku url does indeed now 404. I'd go about changing places I could that refer to that url. If there's still none, then is the slack effectively closed to new entrants until that's solved? Not complaining about the situation. I know it's rather complicated. Just asking anyone following along. Thx.

There was no conclusion, unfortunately. Slack makes self-signup difficult (by design), and the ways to get around it are all pretty painful.

Yep, I'd seen that. So again for now, bottom line, no one can join until this is resolved, right?

Anyone can directly invite people via their email address.

oh

@bdw429s Did Ortus ever solve their similar boxteam Slack issue?

that's right, I remember that now, from way before the heroku approach was setup (like 2015 or something). OK, so we can do that in here I guess? I'll look into that.

Slack has always allowed members to invite new people in (unless that is turned off for a specific Slack by the Admin team) -- in case you know of folks who want to join but "can't".

Ortus has still not gotten around to putting up a new sign up page. It's on our list just... farther down ATM

We are still getting a slow, steady stream of new people signing up so I assume someone is inviting them via ☝️🏻

Thanks, and in the Windows version, it's the File menu, then Invite people. Of course, that won't help with people we don't know wanting in, but it's a start. thx

FWIW, I just saw this on another Slack so we are far from alone...

Hey everyone, is there anyone that knows how I can get an invite to the vscode/vim Slack? They have an invite link on the repo page but it’s not working.

yep, it's just such a strange world here, but I know some just love it. 🙂 It doesn't suit me which is why I'm mostly a non-participant. Again, I hopped in because that heroku link (offered in so many places) failed, so I want to do what I can (if/when it's every possible) to correct that. Let's see how things play out.

No idea whether anyone asked Adobe -- I suspect that because it's not an official Adobe channel (and there's often a lot of both pro-Lucee and anti-Adobe chatter here) they probably wouldn't want to help... and I'm not sure what they could do anyway? Getting a corp to pay for a Heroku account seems unlikely at best. Getting Adobe to host an auto-inviter is also very unlikely (given how weird Adobe is about setting up infrastructure in the first place).

sure. when I said "did anyone here reach out", that was a call to any and all here. sorry if it wasn't clear. And I wondered if someone there may be motivated to offer some sum of money to whoever would take on the work (to make it more worth their time). And I thought of them first since it's about CFML, but sure since it's about Lucee they may not. This is almost like an open-source project itself: it would seem that among whoever there are who use this a lot, there may be someone who would want to sponsor the work (and then folks are needed to do that work, setup whatever is needed, etc.) But as you say, I know all these things have been discussed often elsewhere. We shouldn't presume people here are involved in any other slacks to know the ins and outs, so that's part of why I'm teasing things out a bit. Of course, 99% of people on the CFML slack are not seeing this. But perhaps once there's some consensus of what may be worth considering, a call could be put out there, pointing to some discussion (other than this one, I'd think). Just an opinion. Again I barely have skin in this game.

When we ask for volunteers for almost anything regarding community support, everyone seems to take a step back very quickly 🤷🏻

understood. but at least I clarified that mine (taking a "step back very quickly") was because I hardly use slack. 🙂 My reason for being involved in this discussion is simply from the standpoint of hoping to help folks trying to join the slack, when I saw the failing 404s for the heroku page. i'm not invested in the CFML slack (or any slack) like others here. And my point was as much that perhaps it was time to get this one point out in front of the wider audience.

Feel free to start a thread in #cfml-general and see whether you can get anyone to step forward and offer to host the auto-inviter and pay for a domain for it... although having any one company handling it puts it in future jeopardy, should they move away from CFML (or the person involved with the auto-inviter leaves without someone to take over -- or the company just collapses).

Well, again, I will not. I don't have an investment in this decision. I was just jumping into the thread to ask where things stood, for the sake of others. I hope Brad or anyone else who is in the thread now, or others who may find it later, will want to take that on. I don't want to because again I'm not interested in all the debate that will ensue, or the considerations of possibilities (not to mention teh constant notifications about it). To put it another way: I'm not interested how the sausage is made, only when it's ready, so I could then work to get sites changed that point to that old heroku page. That's my motivation here, and how I want to contribute. If no one in this thread now takes on the task, then in time the need should arise (from those who try to get in and can't, and those who are in and want to make it easier). Those folks can find or be pointed to this thread to consider taking on the effort. As for me, I'll wait to see how the dust settles. Sorry if that's just another example of folks "quickly backing out" of the topic.

I purchased http://cfml-slack.net (not https!) and redirected it to a CFML Slack invite link. Wherever that Heroku link was, please "encourage" folks to update pages to list http://cfml-slack.net instead. If anyone encounters problems with the link, ping me about it.

I got an announcement onto the Adobe CF Forurms, as well as got it updated in their past post in the CF Portal on the CFML Slack. I also tweaked the link I had for it in my cf411.com/cfcommhelp list of community help resources. Finally, I also did a blog post on the topic at https://www.carehart.org/blog/2023/2/6/new_url_for_cfml_slack_signup